and get going on the keystone pipeline and energy from the atlantic ocean all the way to alaska. five simple points, specific. and, by the way, he put paul ryan on the ticket, which we're the ones as a republican party and paul ryan that passed a budget in this country that this president hasn't even bothered doing that in over three years. so it's going to take time. it doesn't -- it's not easy to defeat an incumbent. but i believe that if we keep talking about these issues, give this country a choice between two futures, i think over time, four debates, two jobs reports coming out, i think we're going to be able to make an effective case to the american people. >> greta: sanother question nagging the country. since you are an owner of the green bay packers, i think it's only fair, you with a whole list of people, your thoughts about the game last night? >> i watched the game with paul ryan last night. we were in cincinnati. and, i mean, it was just -- it was such a joke. usually the anger from losing a close game or something bad happens in the end, you know, if we're big sport